Sunday, March 30, 2008


Barack Obama: budding demagogue, naive geo-strategist, major influence peddler for the Daley machine in Chicago.
He has only been a senator for just over two years, he has missed almost 20% of all the votes...while state senator in Illinois, he unethically took credit for bills others sponsored, attaching his name to these same bills...went to an exclusive high school ( where did the money come from? And for Harvard?). Visited his African relatives only when it became politically expedient to do so. When his and Hillary Clinton's votes from the last two years are compared, they are almost identical.
Obama is in the hip pocket of a certain nuclear power company and several Wall Street firms, Goldman Sachs being the most notable.

Advocated the violent overthrow of a 'friendly' regime (bombing Pakistan statement- action would have led to a change in government there).

Scheme to save social security just doesn't make sense.

Member for 20 years to a rabidly racist church. His minister believes that God ought to help blacks annihilate whites- and if God won't help blacks do this, then blacks should reject God. If Obama is elected, this minister will basically take up residence in the White House.

Black Liberation theology posits a unique relationship between the black experience and Jesus Christ.

I was under the impression that the message of Jesus was one of universalism, not exclusion.

My critique of Obama is in no way meant to imply that I endorse or actually like McCain or Clinton- I don't.

Obama is surrounded by influential 'reparations' types...with hooks into the UN. The reparations concept doesn't make much sense- it would penalize the white descendants of Union soldiers who have already sacrificed to lift up the black community, just so todays blacks (that are actually partly descendant from whites- many blacks in America are at least 1/4 white) can benefit.

Blacks here were sold into slavery by fellow blacks, and they are much better off, on average, for the experience- the standard of living for blacks in the US is better than in ANY other African country ( the same way Indians are better off now for having gone through the British colonial experience-the Brits gave India railroads, a more efficient bureaucracy, etc.) Reparations also directly denies the Christian idea of 'forgiveness.'

Obama's Islamic roots are disturbing- his father, mother, stepfather, and most of his siblings, are or were, Muslims. In Indonesia, he is widely regarded as a believing Muslim that is expected to come out of the closet as soon as he is elected President- he is not considered to be apostate (another issue). By some accounts he remained a devout Muslim up until 1988, when he met his wife. It is speculated that in his mind,he has only devised a watered down version of Christianity, one that allows Islam to play a major role in the scheme of things. He gave $21,000 dollars to his church in 2006-this same church is allied to Louis Farrakhan and Hamas.
Fundamentalist and radical Islam is a deadly virus which seeks to destroy the West, and many of Obama's people are fifth columnists.

I use to have a very 'liberal' attitude toward Islam...but the Koran itself is opposed to most of our (potential) liberal parliamentary democratic system ( Islam cannot separate church and state). Islamization of the West must be combated.


Blogger Zero said...

To Donnalee- me saying he missed those votes is correct, even if others missed them too. By His Cairo speech, he is obviously Islamo-sympathetic. Indonesians in the street were indeed expecting him to declare himself to be muslim, even if in reality he is irreligious. His church pastor has made racist statements in the past too. He is a Wall Street puppet, like all our presidents....

12:04 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

I was pointing out that Obama had little senatorial experience before becoming prez, which is true.

Indonesian people in the street really do , or did, see him as a Muslim, even if they were mistaken. Many Indonesians did expect him to declare his Islamic faith after the election.

So you think Obama tried cases before he went to school? You said he paid for school by being an attorney and a professor, which is putting the cart before the horse, dont ya think?

Obama got over $100,000 in cash from Goldman Sachs

Obama promised to bomb Pakistan, which he has since fulfilled, even if Bush may have done the same thing

Where did I say his mom was Muslim?

I do not make 'predictions' read my stuff to gather the meaning of my sayings, O brainwashed devotee of the Anointed One

2:14 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

Donnalee, you must not read anything except the sunday funnies.

Obama himself said that he did not embrace the idea of any direct cash payments for reparations, while at the same time he suggested that a super affirmative action, more clinics, etc, would satisfy the requirement. Among his staff and advisors he did have people who worked for the UN who wanted a more direct reparations settlement.

2:25 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

Ok pea brain, let me explain some facts of life for you. In this world there are smart people and dumb people, and people in between. Lets say, just for arguments sake, 50% of the worlds people are 'simple'......Ok, we all know (or at least I know) there are millions of Muslims living in Indonesia, and we know Obama lived there for a few years as a child. Islam is predominant in Indonesia....So, it is only logical that some of the simple people there, who happen to be muslims, would view Obama as being Muslim, even if he isn't. It would also stand to reason that some of these simpletons would expect him to become more openly muslim after he had secured the election. Got that?

3:11 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Missed almost 20% of the votes? HAHAHAHA! Are you praising him or attacking him? Because an average Senator misses about HALF. You are saying he sucks because he is way above average. You're a racist.

Pakistan is a "friendly" regime? HAHAHAHAHA. Yes, the whole "death to America" stance they have is just them joshing us, like old buds, right? Their presidents whole "we will Nuke them into the stone age" speech this year is just a big funny joke, right?

Never mind that Bush actually started combat operations in Pakistan, and that Obama is simply continuing them, right? That's not important, right?

Blacks are better off being sold into slavery... really, so, say, blacks in EUROPE, who were never sold into slavery, they aren't as well off as their American counterparts? Slavery is good then? Builds charicter? Maybe we should add slavery to schools?

Obamas mother was a christian just like you. It's not very christian-like to denounce fellow christians... if you are into witch hunting... Umm... christians sort of stopped that a while ago, might want to get with the times.

Obamas church is allied to Hamas? HAHAHHAHAHAHA that would make it appear on the CIA's US terrorist organizations list... somehow you discovered something the CIA missed... maybe they should hire you? You are a super sleuth!

Islamization of the West must be combated? Yeah, the only problem with that is it violates HUMAN RIGHTS, OUR CONSTITUTION and THE CORE OF AMERICAN & CHRISTIAN VALUES, other than that, it's a GREAT idea, you are just full of them.

5:52 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!! Zero VS Donnalee...

OK, let's take a look at your logic here, "Zero"...

YOU, not these dumb Indonesians you speak of, but YOU, said Obama was Muslim, YOU, an AMERICAN, who has access to the American media and American records, YOU said Obama was Muslim, and YOU said he would become more openly Muslim after he became president, after WRITING A WHOLE BLOG ON HIM.

YOU, knowing how unlikely that is, YOU, knowing he attended Christian church for decades and still does, YOU, YOU THOUGHT THAT.

So, if YOU think an Indonesian is dumb for thinking that, when they have no access to records or education like YOU do... but then... YOU YOURSELF think that, how dumb does that make you?

It would stand to reason... MORE dumb.

It would also stand to reason, that if your response to someone calling you out on how dumb your ideas were, is to actually say "Listen, 'pea brain!' Foreigners who think like me are DUMB, Got that?"

... HAHAHA .... if THAT is actually your reply...

....that puts you in a category of BEYOND dumb.

I think that category is called something like "fucktard", or "dipshit", maybe "skinhead idiot with a blog".

6:56 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

Thank you for your thoughts, they were most entertaining. I did not say Obama was a muslim. Read what I wrote more carefully...this blog has numerous 'qualifiers' and occasional abuse of hyperbole...His mom may or may not have partly embraced Islam while living in Indonesia- she and her husbands seem to have been irreligous, like her son.She was a poverty pimp for the Ford Foundation... Rev. Wright never made it into the WH because he became a political liability- these things happen.
Your analogy about family members and racism is flawed- in a church, you can easily get up and leave and go to another one....not so with family. Many people in Indonesia did indeed view Obama as a muslim of sorts (in 2008), but now this sentiment is fading fast, esp since he wont spend any real time in his former home-nation. I did not say he was a muslim in the post, but said he disturbing ties to Islam, ties that could skew the way he led...He spent about 150 days on the job as US senator in DC before becoming prez....You said he paid for law school by being a lawyer-oohkaay....And Pakistan is enough of a friend for them to get a fair amount of aid, military or otherwise, from the US. Bush started the drone attacks, and Obama ramped them up. And no, this blog isnt about Obama, you should know that. Many blacks here are better off than their African counterparts. We have almost 40 million-this wasn't meant to be an endorsement of slavery.

And yes, Islamization here should be slowed, and we can easily do this with immigration curbs- or didnt you know?

Re-reading this post... and it seems you actually agree with most of it, since you never attacked the other 55-60% of what was written.
Again, I want to thank you for your contributions here, they are most helpful.

7:27 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

despite your notion, many muslims around the world did indeed view Obama as being muslim, even if this is mistaken idea.

Example of a qualifier: 'if'... See how that works?

8:33 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

this is info on Rev Wrights views...

8:43 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

link showing Rev Wright's church loose or sympathetic "alliance" with Hamas

Donnalee/Dick, You should focus when reading...."Islamic roots" ..."by some accounts" ..."It is speculated" ....were apparently misconstrued by you to mean that I was saying that I believe Obama is a muslim. That is not what those statements represent. You spent most of a whole comment saying I said what I never said. Tighten up.

9:21 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

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10:23 AM  
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10:24 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

Sorry I triple posted :D I'm an idiot.

10:25 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

Thank you again for your comments. they are most appreciated and they are quite illuminating. It appears you didnt read the links.

In the post, I never said Obama was muslim, nor did I really use langauge to strongly imply such. Yet you ranted about how I said he was muslim, so you were blowing steam. He got a ton of cash from Goldman Sachs....You still dont know much about Obama's background...curbing one third is an accomplishment-or didnt you know? Your criticisms are not valid; most are nonsensical. If you cant understand what Im saying or implying or not implying, thats too bad, since its my blog and if you dont like it then you are free to go.

.Normally I dont allow posts from hidden cowards like yourself whose vocabulary is largely limited to profanity or immature insults, but your comments have reached a point where it has become necessry to retain them. This I deeply regret.

9:31 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Hidden? My name and email are right here aren't they? What more do you want? You can google me for Gods sake. You could drive to my house and punch me in the face... how am I hidden?? What the heck are you talking about?

12:02 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

I am not filtering anything.

6:25 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

You post anonymously, and I am not filtering or in any way obscuring or delaying any comments. You also failed to challenge anything I just wrote, so you must agree.

You dont know what you are talking about- you cannot properly read anything. Do you know about Business Intrnational Corporation (BIC)? They allegedly paid off Obama's tuition debt for Columbia. Do you know what they do, in reality? Did you know his mom, Stanley Ann Dunham worked for the East-West Center at the university of Hawaii? Or she worked for The US agency for International Development (USAID), and the Ford Foundation? Do you undertand the meaning? Do know that Muhammadiam Soomro hosted Obama's 1981 trip to Pakistan? Do you know what he did there, hmmm? Did you know Obama has a social security number registered in Conneticutt? Did you know "The New Colossus" was mired in controversy for its rhetoric-to this day? Did you know the Obama's are no longer lawyers- Barack either declined to have his license renewed or let his bar membership lapse, or whatever, due to his fear of being caught 'fibbing' on his application? ( lying about having an alias-a felony)? Michelle got her lawyering torpedoed in 1993 by the courts....Obama was never a law professor in Chicago- and he was hadly a adjunct, he was a senior lecturer, and his collegues hated him for his laziness (from: Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, assistant Dean for Communications and lecturer in law at the university of Chicago school of law)... Reportedly,while editor of the Harvard Law Review, Obama spent most of his time smoking pot. And are you aware of Obamas real relationship with Reggie Love? where theres smoke, theres fire....

You seem to live in a universe where, if someone criticises Obama, then that is a racial attack. That is absurd. The post doesnt knock Obama for his racial background at all.
Since you claim I can google you, put up or shut up. Show us. who you are...Again, its my blog and I can use a qualifier, or be direct, or obscure, or clear, or whatever. If you can't understand, creep, then you are free to go away-for now.

7:02 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

OK I'm going to try and post my original comment again, then answer your new one... and sorry for assuming you were filtering it...

7:28 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

OK now, being vague or obscure does not absolve you of your entire argument. Saying that you didn't directly suggest something in an argument that suggests absolutely nothing else is even more childish than being passive aggressive.

You made a suggestion. You presented a whole lot of evidence to support your suggestion, your suggestion, as well as the evidence, says Obama is Muslim and evil.

Therefore you have argued that Obama is Muslim and evil. There is no wishy-washy obscurity here... you are hiding behind a glass shield. I mean look at the fucking title of your post man :)

Calling up images of evil and attempting to link them via nothing else than similar spelling? What the fuck is that?

Obama bashing is fine, but you suggest stuff that is plain bullshit. Why? Why all the conspiracy? Why does Obama have to be guilty of all this crap that has a 0.001% likelihood and a combined likelihood that is the definition of impossible? I mean you said, directly, that Obama is guilty of trason (has people that are fifth columnists)... TREASON... the PRESIDENT...? Hmm maybe you should take this to the army you work for?

It's not hard to see that you hate blacks. Or maybe you bashed Bush 10x more? Maybe you pointed out how Bush looked like the Pope and therefore WAS the pope? No? Anything? No? OOOOOH YEAHHHH he was white like you.

8:27 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

There seems to be something wrong with you. I strongly advocated for Bush's removal- from day one- he was a traitor.

In the post I never said Obama was a muslim and I have never believed that. I did find his connections to Islam disturbing only inasmuch they might affect policy, which ha been borne out by his Cairo speech, and his attitude toward Adjmenijad , who called Obama an 'amatuer' in return. And yes, there were people in Indonesia who at the time did think Obama would one day declare himself to be muslim-this would be natural, even If I dont think he is.That is obvious. Have you seen the links? My statements are correct, except the 20% one- it was really around 24%, but both proved my point- that he was an average politician.

Your comment about blacks in Europe only helps my case. Blacks now are better off for having gotten out of Africa and going to America or Europe. Somehow you thought that this was an excuse or apology for slavery. Its not.

The fifth columnists are there- they have been with us for decades.

Im going to make you explain exaclty how I argued that Obama is muslim- I said he had a connection that was disturbing, this is so, he had family mambers that are or were muslim too. Some people have said that he still retians a muslim alleginace or faith, but I think there are very few people who really believe this, but its a true statement, since there are some people who believe this....

Really, you ought to lighten up. A reasoned argument here,with supporting evidence, and then a qaulified statement there....this is noraml free asocaition... this should not unbalance your mind so much

10:31 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

Ok, "nick" it seems you set up a blog just to post on mine, or to show me that your were not 'hiding' ... its a brand new blog dated today...whatever.

...Considering your alleged professional and social ambitions, offering all those bizarre insults on my blog can only hurt ones prospects. The casual reader will think you are projecting in a Freudian sense, since the comments so effortlessly ooze out. They wont look good on any resume. They might knock one out of all sorts of jobs.

Actually, I think Obama is only partly evil.

11:10 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

Alright. Jeez. Where do I begin.

First, I'm sorry, I probably shouldn't attack you so much. I should respectfully disagree, then label you a ignorant jerk and ignore you when your response is bullshit. I shouldn't have talked to you this long, and probably was overly mean because of it.

Yes, I made my blog profile just for you, because you said I was "hiding" by calling myself by my first name. Now, you read many personal details including the exact small town I live in, my childhood, my hobbies, my number of kids, what I do for a living, who I love, what I love, and I am upgrading from "in hiding" to "allegedly Nick", YOU wont even expose your first name. You claim to be "Zero" from "somewhere in the Namib Desert". The only way that is not "in hiding" is if your parents hated you and you're sincerely lost. Otherwise, you're a fucking hypocrite.

Next, I've never missed a job interview for posts on bigot blogs... "Hmm, he looks good on paper... but how does he treat those crazy bigots? Let's do some Googling...".

That's not going to happen. In fact, if anyone is perspectively going to hire me, and is reading this, and this has anything to do with your consideration for me in this position, bad OR good, go fuck yourself, I don't want to work for you; your company is going to fail because you are dumb and don't know how to hire people.

2nd to last, I already explained how you specifically said Obama was a Muslim, twice. I would make you explain how you managed to not notice that, but I'm guessing it has something to do with my use of actual logic. I noticed you ignore that.

Last, I searched your blog. You're a total liar. The only time you said anything bad about Bush was in 2009, AFTER Obama was President. This is a "see I ain't no bigot! I hate whites too!" fall back. Yet you comparatively only rarely complain about insignificant things like "damn Bush, eggs cost too much, gee golly!". That's a far cry from accusing someone of treason and terrorism and a plotting to destroy the universe.

1:57 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

Well, "Nick," I must admit you are a real hoot. Besides your vindictive and perverse insults, you never attempt to refute anything I wrote. Because you can't. The post never says that Obama is muslim.
And yes, this blog actually began as an anti -Bush attack site, with other types of commentaries thrown in- this news probably will shock you. You wont see that much anti Bush stuff here anymore because it was deleted since I published a book on Bush, etc. No point in leaving it here for free....Now that Obama is here, who is serving Bush's third term in a way, the blog has gone after Obama at times. What I said in the post stands.

(I cant spell sometimes due to eyestrain)

8:32 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

Also, you are trying to dictate what can and cannot be on a blog. Bloggers can free asociate if they want, they can use hyperbole, they can exagerate their own position to try to jolt,they can write in code, they can create pen names, etc.

What's wrong with you?

8:38 AM  
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9:33 AM  
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9:33 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

Lets revisit your original objections.

You disputed the vote percent, but my point was that he was an average inexperienced senator, which was indicated by his attendance record- somewhere near 20, or 24%.

The money for school objection was to show that he had access, which he did, in Hawaii ( banking relatives). BIC is thought to have paid his tuition for Columbia, which is more important. I never said he himself did not pay for some of his schooling . But where did he work as a young man? We already know that....

Then you objected to something written about his African relatives...but your objection sorta sounds like you are agreeing with what I said..... moving right along....

You objected to the idea that he got money from Goldman Sachs. You are wrong. Also, look at his economic team and tell me with a straight face they arent tied to GS in some way....

Then there was the Pakistan, I used fluid langaunge to make a point. I never said Bush wasn't involved in Pakistani operations either. Obama on the campaign trail advocated for ramping up the war into Pakistan, and now his drone attacks have outdone what Bush did. And yes, Pakistan is an ally, to a certain degree. We even guard their nuke facilites...

You then asked my continue with my social security statement....

Now we come to Obama's church. You said the church wasn't racist only the minister was. When I said the church was rabidy racist, here I was linking the church to the minister....the minister represented the church. The statement was meant to provoke...Did you read the links at all? And your analogy with families has already been shown to be erroneous. You can leave a church a lot easier than you can leave a family. And Wrights church has supported Hamas, even if this support has been minimal.

At the time that the post was written, it was credible that an Obama win could translate into Rev. Wright being a frequent guest in the WH.....things changed since- Rev wright became a serious liability after the post was written- these things happen.

Your strongest objction seems to have been the idea that there were Indonesians who thought Obama was muslim and he would eventually declare himself.....did you read any of the links? Its a fact, there was a certain expectation in Indonesia during the run up to the election, even if it was minor. Somehow this thought provoked your HAHA's. At he time we were still learning about Obama...we still are. Then you went on and on about how I said he was muslim and dumb Indonesians said he was muslim, therefore I am dumb.
Since I never said he was muslim, then your comment is absurd.

The one statement that could be wrong, as written, is when I lumped Obama's mom into the muslim relative mix. I dont think she herself was ever muslim, her insertion with the others was a careless oversight.

(many) Blacks are better off for having gotten out of Afrtica and being in America or Europe. Your analogy bolsters my point.

No where is the post a racial attack except insode your head.

Your attacks were unjustified and you assume things that arent true. You must have your head all the way up Obama's ass (as if there were room in there alongside Obama's head and Reggie Loves member).....

9:34 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

So you see, you are wrong on all counts, with the possible exception of Stanley Dunham.

9:40 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

This blog began as a critique of Bush/Cheney, and to explore ideas generally.

You seem to think that if one often attacks Bush, then one is probably off the hook for being a bigot. This is a non sequitur. One can be 100% bigoted and still be against the Bush regime 100%.

Conversely, one can be 100% opposed to Obama and still be 100% non-bigoted. Or not. Being opposed to Bush or Obama or their policies isnt about or related to being a bigot or not being a bigot- except in your strange universe.

10:09 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

You were so wrong about Goldman Sachs and some of the Indonesians in the street....So I guess now you must think Obama is Santa Claus...(your words)....You dont seem to know the difference between a courtroom and a blog.

You seem to think most attacks on Obama are racially motivated while attacks on Bush prove one is not a bigot. This is a childish and asinine attitude.

12:00 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

Also, this a suppose to be a family friendly blog. Your use of profanity and creepy sexual phrasing etc. would cause most bloggers to automatically delete your comments. They will remain up, for now- to humiliate you. Share your comments with your sig other and parents, etc. Your comments will make for great holiday gifts....

3:22 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

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9:43 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Jesus your stupid blog double posts almost everything.

9:46 PM  
Blogger Zero said...

So folks, here we see the end result of the postings of an apparently desperate psycho- he stopped trying to defend his primary objections long ago. He didnt know about the money GS sent to the Obama campaign. He didnt know that some Indonesians thought he might one day announce himself as a muslim....the critic said the blog was about Obama when it isnt, Obama just happens to make occasional appearances....His bio on his impromptu blog indirectly said he liked being nice-so his perverted rudeness here is either his version of nice, or he is dishonest. Which is it? It doesnt matter.
He tried to dictate how one could run their own blog- he insisted a slight or not so slight insinuation was the same thing as saying something is so....when thats not necessarily the case. When a commenter is offering vain insults, the obligation is on the commentor to come out from the darkness- or not. They choose to be on a blog, so they can go away if they want- they are not in a moral position to dictate terms to the blogger- one should realize that.

His bio said he was going to law school. By his own words, indirectly or not, he admitted he attempted to defame me, even though what happened here probably did not quite meet the legal definition of defamation. He must be seeking a law degree from the bottom of a cracker jack box, since he doesn't seem to know the difference between somewhat implying or directly saying... he doesnt understand the device caled 'devils advocate,' his analogies are all wrong, and he thinks that if one attacks Bush, then that is a good indication that one is not a bigot, when in reality that one thing isnt necessarily connected to the does not matter. He also said he was outta here, so Im going to see if he is a man of his word. I suspect though, that he isn't.

9:25 AM  
Blogger Zero said...

He would probably laugh at my book on Cancer, too...sight unseen. Sad.

10:17 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

By the way, it's great you wrote a book on Cancer, but if you deleted all your posts on Cancer because you wanted to make money on your book like you say you did with your Anti-Bush posts, then shame on you.

Cancer is painful, much more than Bush. I don't think removing free information because you found a way to charge for it is doing anyone a favor.

If you didn't, then yay for you. Hopefully it's worth the stuff it's written on.

12:09 PM  
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9:28 PM  

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