Explanations
Muslims and Jews and Christians got along fairly well for over a thousand years...(military-political struggles between the factions were not about faith issues-Ottoman thrusts toward Vienna, ...the Berber strike into France, etc., were about wealth and power) When the European Knights attacked the Palestine area during the Crusades, the local rulers could hardly believe that foreigners could be so uncouth and barbaric. The Christians seemed to be savages in the eyes of the defending Sultans, and to a certain extent this was true (The Knights did not bathe, and Richard the Lion Hearted once led a needless slaughter against civilians- this is still talked about today in the region). The muslim warrior Saladin, a model of chivalry, is still a hero to many today- even to Israelis !!
By the time of the 7th crusade, Muslims had had enough. The Mameluke General Babyars repulsed the invasion, then repelled the Mongols (about 1260 AD). ( Go into a coffee-shop in cairo today, and chances are you will hear a minstrel singing the exploits of the Mameluke savoir of Islam).
The people of the area now had hardened their attitude toward Christian Europe, a tendency that has persisted to this day....
Before about 1885, there were no Zionist Jews in Palestine, Galilee, Samaria....They later illegally went there and then took over. Within the Koran, a duty to defend the 'Ummah,' or community of believers, is stated. As long as the US funds Israels war machine, and the IDF creates desperate refugee camps where innocents die daily, then the US leaves itself open to attack from resistance organizations. (Incidentally, Hezbollah condemned the 9-11 disaster).
Some Jews think God gave them their land in Israel-Palestine, that they are just returning to their ancestral home, so they are justified in their actions. Some argue its a question of stewardship, they have come and they have turned the desert into a modern state.
1. Just because my ancestors originally came from Europe, doesnt mean that i can illegally colonize Switzerland and form a militia and start attacking the locals.
2. Americans took the land away from the Indians and have built a modern state, but that still doesnt make it right. Maybe the US government and society should fold and return the continent to the native Indians....
As far as the God stuff goes, well....
By the time of the 7th crusade, Muslims had had enough. The Mameluke General Babyars repulsed the invasion, then repelled the Mongols (about 1260 AD). ( Go into a coffee-shop in cairo today, and chances are you will hear a minstrel singing the exploits of the Mameluke savoir of Islam).
The people of the area now had hardened their attitude toward Christian Europe, a tendency that has persisted to this day....
Before about 1885, there were no Zionist Jews in Palestine, Galilee, Samaria....They later illegally went there and then took over. Within the Koran, a duty to defend the 'Ummah,' or community of believers, is stated. As long as the US funds Israels war machine, and the IDF creates desperate refugee camps where innocents die daily, then the US leaves itself open to attack from resistance organizations. (Incidentally, Hezbollah condemned the 9-11 disaster).
Some Jews think God gave them their land in Israel-Palestine, that they are just returning to their ancestral home, so they are justified in their actions. Some argue its a question of stewardship, they have come and they have turned the desert into a modern state.
1. Just because my ancestors originally came from Europe, doesnt mean that i can illegally colonize Switzerland and form a militia and start attacking the locals.
2. Americans took the land away from the Indians and have built a modern state, but that still doesnt make it right. Maybe the US government and society should fold and return the continent to the native Indians....
As far as the God stuff goes, well....
posted by Zero at 2:28 PM
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